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Jul 21, 2014 - 02:34 PM
In my mind the first question is, “Is there going to be a rapture?” I say NO!!!
The rapture theory was invented in the early 1800’s when a lady by the name of Margaret MacDonald had a vision. Her vision was that there would be a small group of people called up to heaven before all others. This vision was known by a man named John Darby who promoted the rapture theory starting in the 1830’s.
This story of the rapture theory is refuted by those who want to believe in the rapture. Yet scripture does not support the rapture theory as advertised by the denominational church. What scripture supports is at least three different groups of resurrections which take place over a period of time. The feast days of Israel supports the different times of resurrection and supports the three times in which a resurrection will occur.
What is the resurrection but a time when our body will be made immortal? So any rapture or resurrection is describing a time of the body being made immortal or being made into an eternal body. We have been taught by the denominational church that there will only be one time when a resurrection will occur. But scripture speaks of a number of times when this will happen, and the three harvest of Barley, Wheat and Grapes all speak of at least three main resurrections.
This is only known if one studies the feast days and the symbology behind them, which the denominational church has failed to do. Even so, the rapture theory has been so ingrained into the psyche of the Christian people, that it is now expected to happen. It will be a big surprise to them when it doesn’t come to be.
Anyway, I digress. Pets… We really do not know what will happen to our pets when the resurrection occurs. Scripture speaks of the restitution of all things, all things would include our pets. If this is true then pets will be resurrected along with mankind, but does scripture really describe this? It does not, the door is still open to interpret it any way you wish.
You ask if the pet of a born-again christian would be saved. What about the pet of a non born-again christian? Is the pet sinful because it belongs to a heathen verses a christian? Does the pet have a choice in the matter? I say NO, all pets will be treated the same no matter who claims ownership to them while on earth.
Who will take care of them? Does a pet have a higher value to God then a non-pet? What about a wild Fox, do they have less of a standing with God? What about a Black Bear, or a Buffalo, a Lion or a Dove?
Very interesting question though…
Blessings
The rapture theory was invented in the early 1800’s when a lady by the name of Margaret MacDonald had a vision. Her vision was that there would be a small group of people called up to heaven before all others. This vision was known by a man named John Darby who promoted the rapture theory starting in the 1830’s.
This story of the rapture theory is refuted by those who want to believe in the rapture. Yet scripture does not support the rapture theory as advertised by the denominational church. What scripture supports is at least three different groups of resurrections which take place over a period of time. The feast days of Israel supports the different times of resurrection and supports the three times in which a resurrection will occur.
What is the resurrection but a time when our body will be made immortal? So any rapture or resurrection is describing a time of the body being made immortal or being made into an eternal body. We have been taught by the denominational church that there will only be one time when a resurrection will occur. But scripture speaks of a number of times when this will happen, and the three harvest of Barley, Wheat and Grapes all speak of at least three main resurrections.
This is only known if one studies the feast days and the symbology behind them, which the denominational church has failed to do. Even so, the rapture theory has been so ingrained into the psyche of the Christian people, that it is now expected to happen. It will be a big surprise to them when it doesn’t come to be.
Anyway, I digress. Pets… We really do not know what will happen to our pets when the resurrection occurs. Scripture speaks of the restitution of all things, all things would include our pets. If this is true then pets will be resurrected along with mankind, but does scripture really describe this? It does not, the door is still open to interpret it any way you wish.
You ask if the pet of a born-again christian would be saved. What about the pet of a non born-again christian? Is the pet sinful because it belongs to a heathen verses a christian? Does the pet have a choice in the matter? I say NO, all pets will be treated the same no matter who claims ownership to them while on earth.
Who will take care of them? Does a pet have a higher value to God then a non-pet? What about a wild Fox, do they have less of a standing with God? What about a Black Bear, or a Buffalo, a Lion or a Dove?
Very interesting question though…
Blessings
Jul 25, 2014 - 10:07 AM
Martenas, you have brought up several things that I want to respond to:
-- YOU ASKED, “IS THERE GOING TO BE A RAPTURE?”
Here are some articles that explain the rapture:
Title: “What is the Rapture of the church?”
Link: www.gotquestions.org/rapture.html
Title: "Will there be a partial rapture?"
Link: www.gotquestions.org/partial-rapture.html
Title: "Will babies and young children be taken in the Rapture?"
Link: www.gotquestions.org/rapture-children.html
(Also see "Related Topics" at the bottom of the above articles for additional information about the rapture and when it will occur.)
-- YOU MENTIONED THE RAPTURE THEORY BY MARGARET McDONALD.
Here’s an article I found on the Internet about this subject:
Title: "Margaret MacDonald Who?" by Todd Strandberg
Link: www.raptureready.com/rr-margaret-mcdo...
-- YOU SAID, “… the rapture theory has been so ingrained into the psyche of the Christian people, that it is now expected to happen. IT WILL BE A BIG SURPRISE TO THEM WHEN IT DOESN’T COME TO BE.”
Actually, that’s not true, since the Bible doesn’t guarantee that the rapture will happen during our lifetime. I submit that it will be a much greater surprise to the people who aren't saved when the rapture does take place.
-- YOU SAID I ASKED IF THE PET OF A BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN WOULD BE SAVED:
(That’s not what I asked--see my last point below.)
Here’s an article about pets:
Title: “Do pets / animals go to Heaven? Do pets / animals have souls?”
Link: www.gotquestions.org/pets-heaven.html
Please note that pets don't sin, and they are incapable of understanding the concept of it. They also can't have faith. Consequently, it's impossible for them to be born again, like humans can. If you want to know how to be saved God's way, please visit the "Printable Gospel Tracts" section of my website. There are many different tracts to choose from. Here's the link, if you're interested in reading them: www.mansioninheaven.com/PrintableGosp... .
-- MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS DIRECTED TO BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIANS WHO CURRENTLY HAVE PETS.
I simply wanted to remind them to make arrangements for someone (an unbeliever) to take care of those pets when their owners "disappear" and there's no one around to feed them.
-- YOU ASKED, “IS THERE GOING TO BE A RAPTURE?”
Here are some articles that explain the rapture:
Title: “What is the Rapture of the church?”
Link: www.gotquestions.org/rapture.html
Title: "Will there be a partial rapture?"
Link: www.gotquestions.org/partial-rapture.html
Title: "Will babies and young children be taken in the Rapture?"
Link: www.gotquestions.org/rapture-children.html
(Also see "Related Topics" at the bottom of the above articles for additional information about the rapture and when it will occur.)
-- YOU MENTIONED THE RAPTURE THEORY BY MARGARET McDONALD.
Here’s an article I found on the Internet about this subject:
Title: "Margaret MacDonald Who?" by Todd Strandberg
Link: www.raptureready.com/rr-margaret-mcdo...
-- YOU SAID, “… the rapture theory has been so ingrained into the psyche of the Christian people, that it is now expected to happen. IT WILL BE A BIG SURPRISE TO THEM WHEN IT DOESN’T COME TO BE.”
Actually, that’s not true, since the Bible doesn’t guarantee that the rapture will happen during our lifetime. I submit that it will be a much greater surprise to the people who aren't saved when the rapture does take place.
-- YOU SAID I ASKED IF THE PET OF A BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN WOULD BE SAVED:
(That’s not what I asked--see my last point below.)
Here’s an article about pets:
Title: “Do pets / animals go to Heaven? Do pets / animals have souls?”
Link: www.gotquestions.org/pets-heaven.html
Please note that pets don't sin, and they are incapable of understanding the concept of it. They also can't have faith. Consequently, it's impossible for them to be born again, like humans can. If you want to know how to be saved God's way, please visit the "Printable Gospel Tracts" section of my website. There are many different tracts to choose from. Here's the link, if you're interested in reading them: www.mansioninheaven.com/PrintableGosp... .
-- MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS DIRECTED TO BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIANS WHO CURRENTLY HAVE PETS.
I simply wanted to remind them to make arrangements for someone (an unbeliever) to take care of those pets when their owners "disappear" and there's no one around to feed them.
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Jul 26, 2014 - 06:26 PM
Sorry it took so long to answer, it isn't easy for me to answer. I have 3 dogs, all girls, whom I call "my girls". I count them all as blessing from God. I cannot say with all comfort that there are arrangements if I were to be taken up during the rapture. The fact of the matter is, though I have a "plan" in motion, I'm not all comfortable that they will be taken care of if I just up and die. But this is where I leave them in God's Hands. I trust Him. They to are His creation, and He loves ALL of His creation. Therefor, I am confident that thier best interest will be on His mind.
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