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False gods

Is it acceptable to insult and criticize someone's false god? I'm not talking about discussing the false gods to its followers, I'm talking about literally insulting it. For example, the "spaghetti and meatball" god. I myself call that god stupid, though I know it really isn't a god, not even in the eyes of those who "created" it. It is them mocking our God. Another example is I just read about a guy who got "lashes" for insulting Islam. So, is it acceptable to insult someone else's god?

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Jan 12, 2015 - 05:09 PM

Ok, I just finished reading this and first of all, thanks for your reply. I see you had one “thumbs down” and just to let you know, that was not me. The second thumbs down was.

I do not see a false god as being a real living entity and I hope you don’t either. I do recognize God as real, as I believe you do also. I just can’t agree with the things you are saying as being true.

I don’t agree that God wanted all along for His people to be led astray. The bible tells us that we go astray on our own, all we like sheep have gone astray. This is not what God’s purpose is for His people, for His people to go astray. I’m sorry, but unless I twist scripture around, I can’t get that!

Who are God’s people because the bible tells me that anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ living in them, that person does not belong to Him. Those that do have His Spirit belong to Him. They are his people and He will never lead us astray. A person goes astray on their own, not by God’s design or purpose.

You say that God is using evil to correct us, and to perfect us? By “us” you cannot be possible thinking that these are people who have been born of God’s Spirit? A person who has been born of God’s Spirit is no longer under the influence and control of evil. That person is now under the influence of God’s Spirit.

How can you expect someone to believe that God is using evil to correct us and perfect us. He is not using evil to correct me or perfect me. It is His Spirit that dwells in me that He uses to correct me and perfect me. There is no evil that can correct me. I might choose to do evil, but it is not of God for His purpose of correcting me. If I choose to do evil, it is His Spirit that brings conviction and corrects me, not the evil.

You say that we have been lied to by the leaders of the denominations? Which ones, all of them? I will never agree to that. I am not so gullible as to believe that they are all telling the truth, but you make it sound as though they are all liars.

Even if they were all corrupt as you say, and they were all liars, do we not each of us have the responsibility to test the things they say and teach? Can you honestly tell me that you have sat in and listened to the teachings of every pastor out there and tested their teachings with scripture and found that they were all corrupt and false? I don’t think so. However, you seem as though we should all avoid any form of Christian fellowship, because no pastor can be trusted. Is that what you are saying? Do you fellowship with other believers anywhere? I don’t need to know where, I’m just looking for a yes or no.

If you don’t trust none of them or any pastors in what you call the “denominational church system” and you simply choose to stay at home and study scripture on your own, I can’t fault you for that. If that is the case, then you are a denomination of one!

I agree with you that God will prove Himself to us individually, and He does. And you are right, He does not use a group of faulty men to prove anything to us. God does not need faulty men, or any man for that matter to prove anything of God to us. It is God Himself through His word that proves things to us. And no, I cannot sit here with a good conscience and tell you that pastors, priests and bishops are not corrupted. I cannot even sit here with a good conscience and say that you yourself are not corrupted.

There is corruption out there but not by all as you make it sound.

You say the true church are those who are taught directly by God? I say that the true church are all those who have been born of God’s Spirit. It is true that His Spirit is given to us to lead, guide, and teach us. That is true. But it is also true that God has placed in the church pastors/teachers to minister and teach His word to us. This does not relieve us from our responsibility to take what these men are teaching and testing it with God’s word. But to say that they are all wrong and corrupt is a false assumption.

You said that “All you can do is explain the best you can and wait for the people to catch up.” What are we to catch up to? Are we to catch up to the things you believe God has revealed to you and what you are attempting to reveal to us? Is that what we are to catch up to? Are we really that far behind? Oh my!

If God has given you all this knowledge that you are sharing here, He hasn’t given it to me. I praise Him for what knowledge He does give me, even if it is just a little. He has given me His Spirit to discern the things I hear and read. He has given me His word in written form for me to read and study. Right now, I am content with where He has me and I know that I cannot move forward spiritually unless He allows me to do so.

Did God truly create all things for His purpose? I believe He did! However, not all things that we see and know are from Him. There are plenty of things out there that are a perverted imagination of the evil mind of man! Those things are not of God!

Thanks for the scriptures!

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Jan 10, 2015 - 07:54 AM

As I thought about this question, the following saying of Jesus came to mind... Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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Jan 10, 2015 - 08:12 AM

Here are some more verses:

-- Proverbs 18:19: "A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and their contentions are like the bars of a castle."

-- Proverbs 21:23: "Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles."

-- 1 Corinthians 10:32: "Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:"

-- 2 Corinthians 6:3: "Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:"

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Jan 10, 2015 - 09:25 AM

I would say NO! Are all things from God? Even the false gods are from God. What is their purpose? To bring glory to our God.

Even the archangel Michael did not bring a railing accusation against the devil (Jude 1:9). If all things are of God, then we do not rail against anything lest we rail against the will of God.

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Jan 11, 2015 - 06:56 PM

Martenas,

False gods are not from God. False gods are made up by man. And false gods do not bring glory to our God as you say. God does not receive glory from man or from any false gods that man's perverted mind comes up with.

If false gods are from God for the purpose of bringing glory to Him as you say, why does God say in Isaiah 43:10 that "Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me?”

What you are saying makes no sense. Can you please explain?

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Jan 12, 2015 - 10:17 AM

Hagios1,

Thank you for asking for clarification.

I see no issue with Isaiah 43:10, for a false god is not a God at all, therefore no god was formed, therefore there will be none before Him. False gods are a wicked entity because they are untrue, but even the wicked are created by God for scripture says “The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil". (Proverbs 16:4)

This is not understood by the masses who claim knowledge of scripture, that God made everything, He even created the wickedness within the earth, it is all throughout scripture, I have made a small list below about Him creating ALL things. God even made evil, for it tells us so in Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things”. And then we read in Psalm 34:21 that “Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate”. So we know why God created evil, to slay the wicked. God is using evil to correct us, to perfect us.

We have been lied to by the leaders of the denominations. Isaiah 9:16 tells us “For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed”. This is the way it is supposed to be, this is what God wanted all along, for His people to be led astray. Why? Because God will prove Himself to us individually, not by a group of faulty men. You cannot sit there in good conscience and tell me that pastors, priests and bishops are not corrupted, we read about it all day long in the papers. God will do this Himself, for the true church are those who are taught directly by God, not by man.

But we do not condemn our leaders because it is not their fault, for who can go against the will of God? None, not one person can go against God (Romans 9:20). The falling away has been going on since shortly after Paul. Paul even tells us that when he leaves (dies), the wolves will enter in among us and not spare the flock (Acts 20:29).

So three main points I am trying to make.

1) God made all things for Himself, this includes the good, the bad and the ugly. It also includes any false gods, all the denominational church systems, any unbelief or blindness on our part, all things. All things are all things, and nothing is excluded. Even all powers and principalities were created by God, and God has authority over all these powers and principalities “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: (Colossians 1:16)

2) Because all things are created by God for God, we are not to judge any of it. Even the wicked of God we are not to judge. Now, this does not mean that we must like it, nor are we to participate in it, oh no, but if we judge it, we are judging God, for God has created all things in the earth for His purpose (the point of this boards question). We are to remove ourselves from it, and seek repentance for our part in it.

Scripture tells us “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6:12) But we just saw above that God is the power of all these things in Colossians 1:16. So in one scripture He tells us that we wrestle against all these powers and principalities, and in another scripture He tells us that He is the authority over all of them. How crazy huh? God is using these powers and principalities to teach us, even though most of us do not understand that we are even in a classroom. Life in this world is all about learning to become righteous before God, and it is God who is teaching us the lessons within this lifetime. For it is not this life that we seek to keep, it is the life to come that we hope for.
Therefore Hitler, Stalin, and even Obama have been placed upon this earth, holding the powers that they do, for the perfecting of the people on the earth. Do I understand why or how God is using these people to teach us? No, I do not understand the ways of God, but He has taught me why He is doing this, He has taught me the end game reasons, although I do not understand the game. Although I do understand the mechanics of how God will save us, I do not know the timing of it.
God tells us “Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. (1 Corinthians 4:5)

3) Many things are still hidden in darkness and have not been revealed to us yet. The reason you and most others do not understand this, nor have heard it before is because the church system is corrupted and has never taught it to you before, and this corruption has been from shortly after the death of the apostles. If you read and study church history you will see that the church brought in their own doctrines from the start beginning with the doctrines of the Trinity and the doctrine of Eternal Hell.

This is the hardest thing for a lifetime christian to get their head around, that they have been lied to all their life. But this is not even the half of it, for there is so much more. This is why I cannot judge you, or anyone on this board, for to do so would bring me under the wrath of God. All I can do is explain the best I can and wait for the people to catch up, to discover the error of their denominations.

I do not want to blast the denominational church system, because it too is the creation of God. But I can speak to it’s untruthfulness and deceit, for even scripture speaks to this in many places. I have spoken of this many times before in other writings on this board.

I hope this has helped.

Blessings

Scripture about God creating all things

*The Lord hath MADE ALL THINGS FOR HIMSELF… (Proverbs 16:4)
*The great God that FORMED ALL THINGS… (Proverbs 26:10)
*And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. (Isaiah 44:7)
*Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; (Isaiah 44:24)
*I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7)
*But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. (1 Corinthians 8:6)
*For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted which did put all things under him. (1 Corinthians 15:27)
*And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; (2 Corinthians 5:18)
*And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, (Ephesians 1:22)
*And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. (Colossians 1:17)
*For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God. (Hebrews 3:4)
*Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. (Romans 13:1)
*Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. (1 Corinthians 4:5)

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I personally agree. I surely don't like it when someone insults my God, so I know I shouldn't insult their god. Also, I used to insult satan and his angels. That is until I read a few years ago that not even Michael the Arch Angel didn't speak against him. So, I knew then that I shouldn't either.

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